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User:Anarchangel/Sandbox/Guantanamo detainees
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The 'worst' stay on WP, the innocent get deleted. Which gives a distorted view of the imprisonment and procedures.
"Guantanamo" gets 134,000 hits on Google News. Are we to believe that this is because of the architecture of the internment facility there? Or perhaps the guards, or their uniforms? A score or two of Gitmo prisoner articles have been deleted, first on the basis of an outdated interpretation of the WP:PRIMARY rule that forbad all primary sources, and now an invocation of GNG that clearly contradicts the facts. Guantanamo prisoners have always been notable, and are a clear case for WP:IAR to bypass the contradiction with GNG. The article, like all Guantanamo prisoner articles, has been savagely cut, from a 32k article down to only 2k bytes,
- Either the sincerity or competence of this notability-based deletion nomination is in question. Offering the inclusion of the article's subject in a list as a consolation prize to inclusionists is incompatible with the basis of the nomination, as list components must be notable in their own right. Which is it? Is this article notable, or is its inclusion in a list and therefore on WP altogether still threatened? Anarchangel
X: notability is not inherited
- Not inherited from what, exactly?
- An American base in Cuba is something of an anomaly, I will concede. But 134K? I think it is Gitmo that inherits notability from its inmates? Hmm, how might I test that? Let's see, coverage before the year 2001 might be good. 10,000 hits for the over 98 years between 1/1/1903, the year the base was founded, and 9/11/2001, the year, you know, that thing, happened. Google hits for the less than 11 years between 9/11 and today now total 136,000. I won't be arguing that these numbers are extremely accurate, I guess. Like it matters. Around 100 a year to well over 10,000 a year. Gitmo prisoners are 100 times as notable as their prison? Anarchangel
- Mohammed Hashim
- Mohammed Nasim (Guantanamo captive 849)
- Nasrullah (Guantanamo detainee 886)
- Rahmatullah Sangaryar
- Abdul Razzak Hekmati
- Abdul Ghani (Guantanamo detainee 934)
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- Abdul Bagi (detainee)
- Bismullah (Guantanamo detainee 968)
Restored to WP
Separately AfDd
- Abdul Ghafour (Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin leader)
- Azimullah (Wikipedia:Azimullah) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Azimullah_(detainee)
- 1 part II
- Sultan Sari Sayel Al Anazi
- Abdullah Muhammed Abdel Aziz
- Muhammad Ali Hussein Khenaina
- Asim Thahit Abdullah Al Khalaqi
- Mohammed Abdullah Taha Mattan
- Abdul Rahman Mohamed Saleh Naser
- Salah Bin Al Hadi Asasi
- Abdulah Alhamiri
all at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2012 June 30
missed
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Dujan al-Afghani 25th
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sultan Radi al-Utaibi 27th
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Musa Ali Said Al Said Al Amari 27th
User:Anarchangel/Sandbox/Guantanamo detainees 3
- Rami Bin Said Al Taibi
- Abdullah Hamid Mohammed Al-Qahtani
- Said Muhammad Husayn Qahtani
- Khalid Malu Shia al Ghatani
- Jabir Hasan Muhamed Al Qahtani
- Abu Ubaydh Al Tunisis
- Mohammed Abdel-Rahman al-Rashed
- Abdullah Muhammed Abdel Aziz
- Sa ad Ibraham Sa ad Al Bidna
- Fahd Salih Sulayman Al Jutayli
- Mohammed Abdel-Rahman al-Rashed
- Sultan Radi al-Utaibi
- Ahmed Owaidan Al-Harbi
July 2
Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdel Hadi Mohammed Badan Al Sebaii Sebaii hacked in fast; need wp links etc
- Abdullah Yahia Yousf Al Shabli
- Bader Al Bakri Al Samiri
- Ohmed Ahmed Mahamoud Al Shurfa
- Mohammed Jayed Sebai
- Mohammad al-Shumrani
- Said Bezan Ashek Shayban
July3
July 5