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Talk:BoyWiki
BoyWiki is anti-anarchist[edit]
Those who seem to think that 110 links to this page is appropriate, and who seem to want to spread strange propaganda definitions and phrases to this wiki, should consider the following:
- Anarchy is a situation in which there is no monopoly on violence
- What most parents in North America, the UK or other English speaking countries would want to do to open advocates of pederasty would be, at best, utterly "medieval" - and that's just for what you believe, never mind what you might actually do
- Life is not fair
- It's relatively easy to trace IP numbers back to net providers and therefore to users - certainly if the activities discussed are illegal
- In anarchy proper, no one would be able to prevent the parents or other angry people from coming after you - and the information to do so is as available to them as anyone else
Given that, it would be wise to find another wiki to host this material. Perhaps one that is less inclined to just give away its operating information to more or less anyone. 142.177.114.25
- I'm sorry but that is bull shit, it's like saying that homosexuality or interracial relationships have no part in anarchy. You have some perverted view of anarchy. In reality anarchy has nothing to do with violence at all. Anarchy is a non-hierarchical system of existance based on voluntary mutual respect and cooperation.
- IP addresses can be traced, and that is why i'm working on freekiwiki project to make viewing/editing/creating pages untrackable.
- Please stop discussing illegal activities (such as violence) on this wiki. Really, it's not cool.
- Please stop associating anarchy with some sort of anomie, it is not that.
- Parents have no ownership over a child.
- Why am i even bothering to reply to this? ~ Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) Talk 2006 October 11 15:13 (UTC)
- Hi, I'm a french apedia user and I disagree with your view on childs and pedophilia. Abusing of a person has nothing to do with any anarchist point of view. Do you think those pedophilia associations actually care about the real desires of childs? At what age do you think the sexual desire develop and how can you know if has been developped by the child(my repeating of word like child is not agist, but lack of english vocabulary). Maybe the parent would have no ownership on their child but I would strongly help any person being abused (by boss or sexual abusers) to fight back. Sorry, but I wouldn't agree to give the freedom of speech to a fascist as I would give it to sexual abusers. I agree with a lot of sexual pratices that many people would feel strange but, these are always consensual and without authoritarian pressure.
- Actually you misunderstand rather than disagree with my views. I myself will oppose abuse and authoritarian violence 100% of the time. You also seem to misunderstand the difference between child-rape (i.e. abuse) and groups like BoyWiki, the former is the abuser, the latter is the freedom of speech advocate. ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2007 August 19 16:19 (UTC)
- Hi VolodyA!, correct me if I'm not right but, I recently heard that, for a festival of the family in Montreal (Quebec), the Free Spirits("boy lover") called for a massive presence. Is your claim of the freedom of speech is for propagating another "Rationality"?
- Actually you misunderstand rather than disagree with my views. I myself will oppose abuse and authoritarian violence 100% of the time. You also seem to misunderstand the difference between child-rape (i.e. abuse) and groups like BoyWiki, the former is the abuser, the latter is the freedom of speech advocate. ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2007 August 19 16:19 (UTC)
I'm not really sure what you are referring to. My claim for freedom of speech is just that, i believe that without freedom of speech all other freedoms stop (sooner or later). As for the title of your edit ("BoyWiki is not anarchist"), i couldn't agree more; they never claimed to be. However, they were being censored, and they did have a lot of information there which needed to be preserved. Of course it would be possible to make yet another wiki ("Free Speech Wiki" ???), but that would be dividing the movement when the unity is what we need right now. ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2007 August 27 07:10 (UTC)