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I's just wikipedia clones, without any link to anarchy or anarchist point of view !
 
I's just wikipedia clones, without any link to anarchy or anarchist point of view !
 
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Hi, I have created a new main page layout in [[User:Cercopithecus/Main page]]. I think this new layout will be more interesting than the present, will help readers to know more about our articles than the present version and will help to grow the project faster. Please tell what you think about it. --[[User:Cercopithecus|Cercopithecus]] 23:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

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All the vandalism on this wiki has been cleaned up. Thanks for your help. Guanaco 00:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem. It was a pleasure, but I am a bit saddened by the fact that the vandal to normal user ratio is so disproportionate in this Wiki. Perhaps there is someone wanting to destroy every potential Wikipedia competitor. Rev 22 00:33, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
I doubt it. It's probably the same people who vandalize Wikipedia. Guanaco 00:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for sysop-status, but i had already developer-status ;) --X 06:48, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Well, we are anarchists, so we have to make sure that power is equally distributed :) Rev 22 17:17, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Please look at italian anarchopedia. --X 06:52, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

I did. Anything new? I see that someone has corrected the ortography on the main page.
I'll try to be more active on ita:. Rev 22 10:35, 21 April 2006 (UTC)


meta access (en:/En:)

Here is a list from meta...

En:Argentina (2001-2002) En:Arguments concerning the method of historical materialism En:Arguments surrounding the issue of the state En:Colleen Bevis Elementary School En:Cranberry Elementary School En:Earth En:Europe En:Examples of organizations with anarchist qualities En:Fifth Grade En:Free Software Movement En:Green anarchism En:Hans Bakker En:Kettle Falls Elementary School En:Miyayke Elementary School En:North America En:Opposition to authority En:Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis En:Society En:The Dispossessed En:Wikipedia En:a En:anarchist social organization En:anarchists En:anarchize En:anarcho-capitalism En:anarcho-syndicalism En:anarchy En:animals versus humans En:ant En:basis for unity En:dictionary En:documentation: Introduction En:examples of organizations with anarchist qualities En:fifth grade En:history of anarchism En:insect En:large public wiki En:libertarian socialism En:love En:major conflicts within anarchist thought En:opposition to authority En:point of view En:political science En:priestly hierarchy En:property En:sex En:socialism En:society En:spider En:troll (word) En:types of anarchism En:vile mailing list En:wage labor

have fun or somebody with sql-access copys this ;) --X 22:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Well thanks for the list but I don't think I can do anything about this now.
I think more articles are missing (those starting with "en:", not "En:", like "en:green syndicalism")
~Rev 22 22:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


Oh yes:

en:1998 en:Actual languages at anarchopedia en:Anarchism.net en:Anarchism in Action: Methods, Tactics, Skills, and Ideas (site) en:Anarchopedia en:Anarchy Archives (site) en:Black Crayon (site) en:Black bloc en:Blues en:C:/DOS C:/DOS/RUN RUN/DOS/RUN en:Christian anarchism en:Christiania en:Colleen Bevis Elementary School en:Cranberry Elementary School en:Disinfopedia en:Earth en:Europe en:Free Software Movement en:Freetown-Lakeville Middle School en:Full Nice Handbag Co en:GFDL corpus access provider en:George W. Bush en:Government of Argentina (2001-2002) en:Hans Bakker en:Historical examples of societies successfully organized according to anarchist principles en:Hungarian Revolution (1956) en:Indymedia en:Infoshop (site) en:Internet forum en:Internet troll en:Kettle Falls Elementary School en:Miyayke Elementary School en:North America en:Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis en:Social Anarchism (site) en:Socialist Workers Party (USA) en:Spanish Revolution (1936-1939) en:Syd Barrett en:Templates en:The Dispossessed en:The Insane en:Trolls en:Voline (site) en:Voluntaryist (site) en:Wiki en:Wikinfo en:Wikipedia en:Winona LaDuke en:Zapatista Autonomous Municipalities en:a en:agriculture en:anarcha-feminism en:anarchist organizations en:anarchist sites en:anarchist social organization en:anarchists en:anarchize en:anarcho-capitalism en:anarcho-communism en:anarcho-individualism en:anarcho-pacifism en:anarcho-primitivism en:anarcho-punk en:anarcho-syndicalism en:anarchy en:animals versus humans en:ant en:arguments concerning the method of historical materialism en:arguments surrounding the issue of the state en:b en:basis for unity en:c en:christian anarchism en:collectivism en:conceptions of an anarchist society en:counterculture en:crypto-anarchism en:d en:dictionary en:documentation: Introduction en:driven off by trolls en:e en:ecological anarchism en:economics en:electronic mailing list en:examples of organizations with anarchist qualities en:f en:feminist anarchism en:fifth grade en:green anarchism en:green syndicalism en:group entity en:h en:history of anarchism en:hominid personhood en:how to organize an anarchist group en:human en:individualism en:insect en:languages en:large public wiki en:libertarian municipalism en:libertarian socialism en:love en:major conflicts within anarchist thought en:mathematics en:modern anarchism en:mutualism (social theory) en:newsgroup en:no confusion with group entity en:opposition to authority en:origins of anarchism en:other anarchist traditions with respect to private property en:pacifism en:person en:point of view en:points of political commonality en:political economy en:political science en:positive brand management en:postanarchism en:power structure en:power structure in Wells en:precursors of anarchism en:priestly hierarchy en:primitivism en:private property en:property en:reflexive design en:schools of anarchist thought en:sex en:sexual relations en:socialism en:society en:spider en:surrealism en:symbols of anarchy and anarchism en:syndicalism en:technological anarchism en:the anarcho-capitalist perspective: private property en:troll-friendly en:troll-sysop struggle en:troll (word) en:types of anarchism en:vile mailing list en:violence and non-violence en:wage labor en:wage labor (anarcho-capitalist POV)

I'm sorry. Have more fun! :) --X 23:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)


note for sether:

try this sql-querry on meta:

select cur_text from cur where cur_title='en:1998'

if it works then you get the content of the article «1998» --X 00:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Sether is actually User:Olive. ~Rev 22 00:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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Thanks for moving

Hi, just wanted to thank you for moving infoAnarchy content here... I don't have enought time to currently do that, but i can help you with integrating that content (see what i've already done) like fixing links and making everything conform to our standards.  ~ Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) Talk 08:04

I'm still not sure how much content to move. I have recovered approximately 700 articles, but probably some are already gone from Google's cache. Also I 'm not sure how many should be imported. Also it's possible that infoAnarchy wiki returns up (it has been up and down a number of times in the past months). ~Rev 22 11:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, are,...

you aware of the wikicrash?

I've posted about it on my page.

Hopiakuta 21:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I noticed that Wikipedia went down, fortunately it didn't affect us, but we have had our own downtimes too (I remember two in the recent months). I didn't have time to research why it happened, so thank you for posting about it... ~Rev 22 22:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Please,

what is the distinction between

< http://meta.anarchopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page >,

& < http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page >??

Hopiakuta 21:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, meta-Anarchopedia can be used for coordination between individuals and communities of different anarchopedias, while eng.anarchopedia is the English language wiki or encyclopedia. There is also a chatroom (#anarchopedia @ irc.indymedia.org) which is used for General Meetings and coordination. ~Rev 22 22:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)


Okay,

< http://irc.indymedia.org > redirects as

< http://chat.indymedia.org >; but, then, what?

Since what you said above, I could not otherwise interpret, is this it?:

< http://chat.indymedia.org/?chans=anarchopedia >?

I'm not qute sure what is involved in "coordination between,...". Does that mean, as in, synchronizing article content?

Is there any way to apply to have a disability anarchopedia, a disability wiki?

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 02:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


I've noticed that these are not reserved;

have you considered them?:


< http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User:Rev >;

< http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User:rev >;

< http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User_talk:rev_22 >.

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 21:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I will redirect them, at least until someone else claims them. ~Rev 22 22:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)



::Okay,

< http://irc.indymedia.org > redirects as

< http://chat.indymedia.org >; but, then, what?

Since what you said above, I could not otherwise interpret, is this it?:

< http://chat.indymedia.org/?chans=anarchopedia >?

I'm not qute sure what is involved in "coordination between,...". Does that mean, as in, synchronizing article content?

Is there any way to apply to have a disability anarchopedia, a disability wiki?

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 06:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

This morning, wikipedia & wiktionary had had their crash; I do believe that anar. has had its crash during the past hour, or so.

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 06:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi Hopiakuta, I'll try to explain better... it appears you located the channel, to connect to it you can either use the web interface (in http://chat.indymedia.org) or use a program like mIRC [1] (the preferred way).

Coordination actually means several things, synchronizing articles in different languages is just one. Coordination is or is supposed to be the social part of the activity on Anarchopedia. There are anarchists who prefer to work alone but most today (even perhaps some who prefer to label themselves as anarcho-capitalist) are social anarchists, which means that they try to involve themselves in different ways in society and try to reform it. It is ok to see Anarchopedia as "just a wiki", but for some like me it is or should be part of a continued effort to bring about positive changes in society.

You can propose to create a "disability anarchopedia" hosted by Anarchopedia servers on meta-Anarchopedia or during one of our general meetings (but the date for next meeting has not been set, yet). User:Beta M for example started the Free Self-Defence wiki, which is hosted by Anarchopedia servers. My personal preferences however is to work on a generalist encyclopedia; here isn't a strict "neutrality" policy like on Wikipedia, so it is possible to write articles on the same topic even from radically different perspectives (an example is the anarcho-capitalism article).

About the downtime, I didn't notice it... how long did the problem last? If it happens again, you can report it on the Anarchopedia's chatroom. Some person with shell-access to Anarchopedia servers could figure what the problem is and try to fix it. ~Rev 22 14:44, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


While I was writing, did you update a weblink?

Was red, went blue; sort of similar to my varicose which change back-&-forth. I do want further guidance, regarding "meta", please.

I created a very small article article for "Free Self Defence wiki", maybe it was it. About meta-anarchopedia, it is similar in purpose to http://meta.wikimedia.org/. It is a place where you can write multilanguage pages, start multi-lingual projects, discuss with other anarchopedians, or write articles about the organization of Anarchopedia in any language. ~Rev 22 17:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You & I have written much in the past few days. I, generally, let the software do the "Rev 22".

I have a Post Office Box number, which can be represented as "#0022", or "#22", et al. Bishop Desmond Tutu; ballet tutu.

Instead of screenname user:hopiakuta | user:Hopiakuta, would you prefer to say "Don"? Please see where I've listed "paper-name".

OK I will try to memorize it... maybe it would help if you tell me how to pronounce. ~Rev 22 17:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

As for the

anar.-crash:

I do not know more precise timing, other than that hour, as per timestamp.

I do not know of any other crash-check than just clicking, or pushing enter|return. If there is another method, I do wish that I would learn it.

Thank You.


Hopiakuta 16:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

This is the ordinary method, it should suffice... ~Rev 22 17:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

While

posting, more than half of the time, on this website, I do get something similar to:


Database error From Anarchopedia Jump to: navigation, search A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "WatchedItem::addWatch". MySQL returned error "1048: Column 'wl_notificationtimestamp' cannot be null (localhost)". Retrieved from "http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User_talk:Rev_22"

That does truly [ internet- ] bug me.


I'm an amateur etymologyst|amateur etymologist, linguistics, word-study,...

I'm an amateur entomologist, insect-study,...

Drumroll, please,......

« Words really bug me. »

Okay, sorry f/ the puns; but, internet bugs sometimes get me into pun-ishment, due to the insect-inside.



Hopiakuta 16:43, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Hehe, well, seriously, this is a known bug, it happens when you post on a user page or when you use the "watch this page" button. The bug was also present in meta anarchopedia but was fixed. Hope it gets soon fixed here, too. ~Rev 22 17:36, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

insect-inside ; killer-pun

Regarding meta-guidance !!!!,

& pronunciation,

&,...

Explicitly:

physical-disability;

emotional-disability;

cognitive-disability.

My fingers scream: "sleep ; no more pain, please." Or, "die" [the pain might stop].

How about some telephonic substitution f/ some o' the wordier issues??

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 19:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


Again:

Database error From Anarchopedia Jump to: navigation, search A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "WatchedItem::addWatch". MySQL returned error "1048: Column 'wl_notificationtimestamp' cannot be null (localhost)". Retrieved from "http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php/User_talk:Rev_22"

Hopiakuta 19:42, 19 August 2006 (UTC)


[[correction Hopiakuta 21:50, 19 August 2006 (UTC)]]

"Rev Bem":

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev_Bem >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Roddenberry%27s_Andromeda >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28television%29 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_%28TV_series%29 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brent_Stait >;


< http://akas.imdb.com/title/tt0213327/combined#comment >;

< http://akas.imdb.com/name/nm0821609 >;

< http://akas.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=stait >.


Hopiakuta 00:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

As for explaining my name in detail, maybe there would be a time when you would feel better about telephones.

Or, maybe, I might write a longform autobiography, where I could explain the pronunciation, & how it has become what it is.


As for meta, please say whom I might apply-to, how.

Thank you.

Hopiakuta 00:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


Hello DonFphrnqTaub,
meta-anarchopedia is just a wiki like this one... if you want you can detail your projects in an article there or here on eng.anarchopedia, or just go ahead with your articles or content and explain later, you can move about as you prefer. User:Millosh is currently the owner of the server, so you can ask to him directly if you want to create a separate disability wiki, or you can also propose it as a topic for our next general meeting. Thank you for the links, never watched the Andromeda series so far. interesting to read about sci-fi ;). ~Rev 22 12:23, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Thank You; eventually, I hope to try that.

I'm alliterate!!!!:

anarchopedia ~ Andromeda ~ {then Atlantis [Stargate_Atlantis]}

Rev 22 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Rev Bem

My favorite reason for the show, usually:

< http://akas.imdb.com/name/nm0230693 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexa_Doig >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommie >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Lam >.


< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_SG-1 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Atlantis >.

Hopiakuta 01:43, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Dear Rev 22,

Dear Rev 22,

Approximately twenty-four hours ago I wrote to user:Millosh. Have you read the message? Have you any method of discerning whether Mr. Millosh has? Please, I do not know how else to do this.

Thank You,

Don

Hopiakuta 21:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


Have you seen this?:

Have you seen this?:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/talk:anarchopedia >.

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 22:17, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

8ik

Thank You.

I am considering crossposting those links to eachother, further challenging the "big wiki" to respect its siblings, & all of us who try to increase information & knowledge. We must challenge eachother to improve.

Have you read my message to Millosh? I do know that I make many mistakes in my typing. If I've offended anyone, then I'm willing to accept appropriate criticism, changes.

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 23:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)



Dear Rev 22,

Dear Rev 22,

As I'd said on Millosh' page, I do not comprehend large portions of the in-lingo.

However, due to your suggetion, I've decided to try something similar.

Whereas "isop%C3%A6dia | isopædia" does not completely, formally, exist, as yet, possibly creating definition pages might be somewhat premature.

However, since what there is largely consists of you, Millosh, & myself, then userpages might be better.

Therefore, I've commenced "user:isopædia".

If this is bad, then, maybe it should be deleted.

If it is good, sufficiently close to your intention, then please do invite Millosh.


To you & Millosh:

Please, let's create the address [es]. If the software cannot accomodate my suggestions, then we could try to add the features later.

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 00:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


Please do reread my message.

What is your thought of that page, inspired by your idea?

I, hereby, reiterate my plea[s]:

Less lingo, please.

Can we, please, assign the addresses that I've suggested, or something similar?

Then, later, try to add the upgrades?

Do you have any impression of what I've said of Mr. Bush' speech?

How can I correct the logon conflict?

You may say "Don".

Thank You.

Hopiakuta 01:56, 6 September 2006 (UTC)




I am experiencing ever worse login | logon difficulty @ both of:

meta: user: hopiakuta

&

eng: user: Hopiakuta.


Preview Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in.


Is the server malfunctioning?

I've deleted cookies.

I've rebooted the browser.

I've rebooted the machine.

Nothing corrects anything.

I do not know whether this message shall post. If you're reading it, then it has.


71.102.35.65 14:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


As for the addresses, the subdomains:

Please assign them this week.

We can complete the software in 2007,

2008,

2009,...

Have you seen "user: isopædia"?



Please, please,...:

Less lingo.

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/lingo >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jargon >;

< http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lingo >;

< http://m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?lingo >.

Thank You.

71.102.35.65 14:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)


Hi Don, sorry for my poor responsiveness but I haven't had as much time for Anarchopedia as I would have wished.

I am not sure why is it that you cannot login to Anarchopedia. Do you get an error during login? Usually you have to repeat login after deleting the "cookies".

I have no more power than you to create the addresses you request. If there is sufficient support for their creation they will be created. I am personally not too enthusiastic about it because I prefer general encyclopedias and wikis to specialist ones. It is much easier to monitor your articles in a single wiki than in several different ones.

I don't think I have been using eccessive jargon in my posts (so far I can remember cookies, login, WYSIWYG, Emacs, wiki, MediaWiki).

I haven't had the time to review the speech by G. W. Bush, but I sometimes find them quite scary, especially considering the fact that he has some following. He often makes references to great ideals like democracy, but is approach appears to be inappropriate and counter-effective. I will write more as I review the links you posted. His affirmations about history do not have particular relevance to me anyway.

~Rev 22 01:04, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

It took me a long time to find that.

Three of those six words throw me far off. You can see my research @:

"user : isopædia".

Millosh overwhelms me more, w/ lingo.


You can see that my posts no longer have a screenname:

error:


___________________________________________

Preview Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still doesn't work, try logging out and logging back in.


___________________________________________



"I have no more power than you to create the addresses you request."

I'm an ignoramite. I am sorry that there is so much that I do not know how to describe,...

...nor do.

71.102.35.65 20:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)


Hey

Hi, I'm interested in getting admin buttons to delete pages created by Willy on Wheels and spambots. How would I go about getting them? It's not a pain like on Wikipedia, is it? Thanks much, Delldot 22:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah, thanks, I should have figured that out. Happy 5/1 to you too! Peace, Delldot 17:33, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Circle A

I do really like the idea about the separate circled A article... how did i not think of that myself? q;-) I would do the other way around, however, make circle A point to (A) rather than the other way around... how many people will type that character in and then expect to be redirected? But having the article named the propper character is ... cool. But i'm up for whatever.  ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) Talk 2007 July 27 12:24 (UTC)

Spamming

Is it really necessary to block someone who spammed once in July and once in September for three months? That seems a bit over-the-top to me. Koekje 19:27, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on the Dutch Anarchopedia! (That is, if you're the same Rev 22) I try to check at least once a week, but that's not really sufficiently often. Anyway, we don't seem to have a critical mass yet on dut.anarchopedia... 132.229.227.86 13:34, 17 September 2007 (UTC) (User:Paul on Dutch Anarchopedia)

Yay!

At last, another editor has appeared! I've dealt with 3 major vandals with no other editors, I had almost given up! Thank you! Zazaban 17:29, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Just so you know

There's a group of people trying to remove LGBT from the front page because they claim giving them rights is 'non-anarchist.' They seem to be hyper-religious fundamentalists and have tried using the 'you are going to hell' argument to justify their deletions. They have recently tried to delete and have protected the main page. I just thought you should know what's going on in case things go downhill. Zazaban 19:13, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Keep an eye on them, in case they do something drastic. I wouldn't put it beyond them to try to block me. If that happens, unblock me. Zazaban 22:23, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


How to learn a language

Thank you very much for uploading this article which got kick out but should be part of an encyclopedia. I highly appreciate this , thanks.--Jondel 00:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

It was actually your article, so I should thank you for the contribution to free knowledge ;-) I see also wikibooks has the article now. ~Rev 22 09:37, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
No(<added> I should thank you.</added>). It would have disappeared into oblivion. Hardly anyone seems to refer to wikibooks. Actually there are quite a few other articles of mine that got deleted, like healing trauma, etc. I really believe there encyclopedic and helpful. Uh, could I ask, so , can wikipedia editors contribute here (openly)? I'll read up on anarchopedias policies.--Jondel 00:31, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I see, hope there's a way to recover the articles. Many contributors here also work (or have worked) on Wikipedia... about policies, I'm not sure you will find much, but I believe every editor tries their best to operate according to good principles, and to reach consensus with others. Writings about policies used to be listed on this Anarchopedia page, I have added them again to the talk page for reference (Talk:Anarchopedia). ~Rev 22 14:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sysop rights

I'm Esperanza and I work on French anarchopedia, and inter-projects. I run Alterbot [2] Is it possible to have full sysop rights, (I already have on French AP) Thanks, --Esperanza 17:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Reverts

I propose a mass delete on this user : Maldek http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&limit=500&target=Maldek I's just wikipedia clones, without any link to anarchy or anarchist point of view ! --Esperanza 17:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Main page layout

Hi, I have created a new main page layout in User:Cercopithecus/Main page. I think this new layout will be more interesting than the present, will help readers to know more about our articles than the present version and will help to grow the project faster. Please tell what you think about it. --Cercopithecus 23:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)