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Hello, personally i agree that this wiki should be anti-capitalist, but it should also be anti-censorship. Can you please explain why you have chosen to remove the link to my podcast ([http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=anarcho-capitalism&curid=1373&diff=30070&oldid=30067&rcid=20021])? ~ [[User:Beta_M|User:]][[Buddhism|B]][[ethics|e]][[Taoism|t]][[anarchism|a]][[postmodernism|_]][[metaphysics|M]] (VolodyA! V Anarhist) <span class="plainlinksneverexpand"><sup>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Beta_M|action=edit§ion=new}} Talk]</sup></span> [[2008]] [[January 12]] 13:28 <sub>([[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</sub> | Hello, personally i agree that this wiki should be anti-capitalist, but it should also be anti-censorship. Can you please explain why you have chosen to remove the link to my podcast ([http://eng.anarchopedia.org/index.php?title=anarcho-capitalism&curid=1373&diff=30070&oldid=30067&rcid=20021])? ~ [[User:Beta_M|User:]][[Buddhism|B]][[ethics|e]][[Taoism|t]][[anarchism|a]][[postmodernism|_]][[metaphysics|M]] (VolodyA! V Anarhist) <span class="plainlinksneverexpand"><sup>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Beta_M|action=edit§ion=new}} Talk]</sup></span> [[2008]] [[January 12]] 13:28 <sub>([[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</sub> | ||
| − | :Well, if it is anti-censorship (and i believe in anti-censorship), then wasn't it censorship when the previous version of it was altered and the text moved elsewhere where it is less likely to be seen? | + | :Well, if it is anti-censorship (and i believe in anti-censorship), then wasn't it censorship when the previous version of it was altered and the text moved elsewhere where it is less likely to be seen? Wasn't it censorship when popular opinion among anarchists was simply changed to "a dispute"? And what of the way the capitalists treated us anarchists in the 90's when we begged people like Caplan and Donald not to lie about us or characterize us as murderers and liars (especially the Spanish Civil War anarchists) and plaster this opinion all over the Internet? Why did they ignore the fact that in 1994-1996, if you went to any library or bookstore or historical archive, the overwhelming history, opinion, and verifiable facts were that anarchism was anti-capitalist, yet on the Internet, people like Caplan, Donald, Friedman, etc simply chose to erase that history, characterize the anarchists of Goldman, Tucker, Bakunin, Kropotkin, etc as liars and steamroll over our history? Who speaks for us when we suffer in minimum-wage jobs, or when we are put in jail for taking bread when we are starving? Who speaks for us when taxes are cut for the rich, and social programs destroyed, and when we anarchists try to replace them with mutual aid societies like free labor unions and cooperatives and federations we are smashed by the police or by armed private property-owners and their thugs and goons? Also, why was there a link to your podcast on the anarcho-capitalism page? Does that imply that it is in fact a pro-capitalism podcast? Or are you talking about something else? --[[User:KropotkinInBlack|KropotkinInBlack]] Sat Jan 12 16:42:31 EST 2008 |
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| + | ::Dude what the fuck are you talking about? You have removed the top line {{Voice of Freedom... etc which links to my podcast. The podcast dealt with anarcho-capitalism, and you have removed it. I am asking you why the fuck did you do that, stop changing the fucking topic of the conversation, i have no problem with opposing capitalist bias which seems to be creeping up in Anarchopedia, but don't fucking blank entire pages. Thank you. ~ [[User:Beta_M|User:]][[Buddhism|B]][[ethics|e]][[Taoism|t]][[anarchism|a]][[postmodernism|_]][[metaphysics|M]] (VolodyA! V Anarhist) <span class="plainlinksneverexpand"><sup>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Beta_M|action=edit§ion=new}} Talk]</sup></span> [[2008]] [[January 20]] 15:05 <sub>([[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</sub> | ||
| + | ::Ok, i was a bit harsh, sorry. My podcast is not pro-capitalist, but in the particular episode i was talking about anarcho-capitalism and i added it to an-cap article. In the future don't remove things if you aren't even sure what they are. Peace. ~ [[User:Beta_M|User:]][[Buddhism|B]][[ethics|e]][[Taoism|t]][[anarchism|a]][[postmodernism|_]][[metaphysics|M]] (VolodyA! V Anarhist) <span class="plainlinksneverexpand"><sup>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Beta_M|action=edit§ion=new}} Talk]</sup></span> [[2008]] [[January 20]] 15:56 <sub>([[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</sub> | ||
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| + | Ok, i've tried to clean up capitalist bias from [[what anarchism is not]], i like some of your edits there, but it makes the article seem like a rant. You have provided some interesting criticism of ancap, but perhaps you should add it in the critique section of [[anarcho-capitalism]]. Just my thoughts of course. And i'm glad you stayed with the project. ~ [[User:Beta_M|User:]][[Buddhism|B]][[ethics|e]][[Taoism|t]][[anarchism|a]][[postmodernism|_]][[metaphysics|M]] (VolodyA! V Anarhist) <span class="plainlinksneverexpand"><sup>[{{fullurl:User_talk:Beta_M|action=edit§ion=new}} Talk]</sup></span> [[2008]] [[February 14]] 07:59 <sub>([[Coordinated Universal Time|UTC]])</sub> | ||
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| + | I have no idea what on earth you're talking about, I've never added any links to this site at all. [[User:Zazaban|Zazaban]] 20:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Anarcho-capitalism[edit]
Hello, personally i agree that this wiki should be anti-capitalist, but it should also be anti-censorship. Can you please explain why you have chosen to remove the link to my podcast ([1])? ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2008 January 12 13:28 (UTC)
- Well, if it is anti-censorship (and i believe in anti-censorship), then wasn't it censorship when the previous version of it was altered and the text moved elsewhere where it is less likely to be seen? Wasn't it censorship when popular opinion among anarchists was simply changed to "a dispute"? And what of the way the capitalists treated us anarchists in the 90's when we begged people like Caplan and Donald not to lie about us or characterize us as murderers and liars (especially the Spanish Civil War anarchists) and plaster this opinion all over the Internet? Why did they ignore the fact that in 1994-1996, if you went to any library or bookstore or historical archive, the overwhelming history, opinion, and verifiable facts were that anarchism was anti-capitalist, yet on the Internet, people like Caplan, Donald, Friedman, etc simply chose to erase that history, characterize the anarchists of Goldman, Tucker, Bakunin, Kropotkin, etc as liars and steamroll over our history? Who speaks for us when we suffer in minimum-wage jobs, or when we are put in jail for taking bread when we are starving? Who speaks for us when taxes are cut for the rich, and social programs destroyed, and when we anarchists try to replace them with mutual aid societies like free labor unions and cooperatives and federations we are smashed by the police or by armed private property-owners and their thugs and goons? Also, why was there a link to your podcast on the anarcho-capitalism page? Does that imply that it is in fact a pro-capitalism podcast? Or are you talking about something else? --KropotkinInBlack Sat Jan 12 16:42:31 EST 2008
- Dude what the fuck are you talking about? You have removed the top line {{Voice of Freedom... etc which links to my podcast. The podcast dealt with anarcho-capitalism, and you have removed it. I am asking you why the fuck did you do that, stop changing the fucking topic of the conversation, i have no problem with opposing capitalist bias which seems to be creeping up in Anarchopedia, but don't fucking blank entire pages. Thank you. ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2008 January 20 15:05 (UTC)
- Ok, i was a bit harsh, sorry. My podcast is not pro-capitalist, but in the particular episode i was talking about anarcho-capitalism and i added it to an-cap article. In the future don't remove things if you aren't even sure what they are. Peace. ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2008 January 20 15:56 (UTC)
Ok, i've tried to clean up capitalist bias from what anarchism is not, i like some of your edits there, but it makes the article seem like a rant. You have provided some interesting criticism of ancap, but perhaps you should add it in the critique section of anarcho-capitalism. Just my thoughts of course. And i'm glad you stayed with the project. ~ User:Beta_M (VolodyA! V Anarhist) 2008 February 14 07:59 (UTC)
Links[edit]
I have no idea what on earth you're talking about, I've never added any links to this site at all. Zazaban 20:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
