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You are right. Anarchopedia in English doesn't have a lot of contributors and my English is not so well. Some time ago, I started to copy Wikipedia's articles about anarchism, and I'll join you :) next week. --[[User:millosh|millosh]] 21:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC) | You are right. Anarchopedia in English doesn't have a lot of contributors and my English is not so well. Some time ago, I started to copy Wikipedia's articles about anarchism, and I'll join you :) next week. --[[User:millosh|millosh]] 21:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC) | ||
| − | What's the point of this? If you do a search on Google of a passage from a Wikipedia article for Louis XIV - [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bankruptcy+when+Louis+XIV+assumed%22 "bankruptcy when Louis XIV assumed"], you get 109 hits, with Wikipedia being #1. Why be hit #110? What's the point of just cloning Wikipedia? | + | What's the point of this? If you do a search on Google of a passage from a Wikipedia article for Louis XIV - [http://www.google.com/search?q=%22bankruptcy+when+Louis+XIV+assumed%22 "bankruptcy when Louis XIV assumed"], you get 109 hits, with Wikipedia being #1. Why be hit #110? What's the point of just cloning Wikipedia? |
I have copied articles from Wikipedia, usually original articles by a good author. I think copying wholesale Wikipedia articles is pointless. If you want to copy and modify articles from Wikipedia, then copy them to your hard drive, modify it and then upload it. What's the point of being just another Wikipedia clone? [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 01:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC) | I have copied articles from Wikipedia, usually original articles by a good author. I think copying wholesale Wikipedia articles is pointless. If you want to copy and modify articles from Wikipedia, then copy them to your hard drive, modify it and then upload it. What's the point of being just another Wikipedia clone? [[User:Lance Murdoch|Lance Murdoch]] 01:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC) | ||
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:Why is copying all of Wikipedia pointless? No, that's a bad question... let me try again: | :Why is copying all of Wikipedia pointless? No, that's a bad question... let me try again: | ||
| − | :What is the purpose of this site other than to be | + | :What is the purpose of this site other than to be "not [[Wikipedia]]"? If the purpose is to be an encyclopedia, doesn't it make sense to start with an encyclopedia that you think needs work and then ''do that work''? Any other position would seem to be based merely on territorialism. -[[User:Harmil|Harmil]] 21:26, 30 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
Sorry to sound negative, but was this site started by non-anarchists to make anarchists look hopelessly disorganised? I thought that Wikipedia was a mess, but this... [[User:81.202.195.21|81.202.195.21]] 14:40, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC) | Sorry to sound negative, but was this site started by non-anarchists to make anarchists look hopelessly disorganised? I thought that Wikipedia was a mess, but this... [[User:81.202.195.21|81.202.195.21]] 14:40, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC) | ||
| − | :Hehehe... I started it and I ''am'' an anarchist. People from [[:deu:|German]] and [[:fra:|French]] Anarchopedia are better organized because they were working on site organization. So, if you want to make some better organization here, you are welcome. The point is ''self-organization'', not leadership. And we have a lot of time to try to do that. To say again here (and this is the answer to Harmil's question, too): Anarchopedia should be | + | :Hehehe... I started it and I ''am'' an anarchist. People from [[:deu:|German]] and [[:fra:|French]] Anarchopedia are better organized because they were working on site organization. So, if you want to make some better organization here, you are welcome. The point is ''self-organization'', not leadership. And we have a lot of time to try to do that. To say again here (and this is the answer to Harmil's question, too): Anarchopedia should be "an anarchist encyclopedia" and "an encyclopedia for anarchists", but also the virtual place where we can try to build anarchy. May we organize us without leaders and power; at least in the virtual world? ... as well as with people who are not explicit anarchists? Even [http://www.infoshop.org/wiki/ Infoshop OpenWiki] doesn't intend to be "an encyclopedia for anarchists" (just "an anarchist encyclopedia") Anarchopedia would not have a lot of sense without the goal to build a virtual anarchy. --[[User:millosh|millosh]] 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC) |
| − | :So, this is the main reason why I am writing here only at the talk pages. People who want to write here should write here without the idea that Anarchopedia is | + | :So, this is the main reason why I am writing here only at the talk pages. People who want to write here should write here without the idea that Anarchopedia is "project which belongs to someone" and without the idea that one person can make decisions about relations between contributors or about the site content. --[[User:millosh|millosh]] 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC) |
:It is not easy to make even virtual society without hierarchy and we want to do that in reality. The good thing is that we have a lot of time to try to do that here (or anywhere else). --[[User:millosh|millosh]] 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC) | :It is not easy to make even virtual society without hierarchy and we want to do that in reality. The good thing is that we have a lot of time to try to do that here (or anywhere else). --[[User:millosh|millosh]] 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC) | ||
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==User unfriendly== | ==User unfriendly== | ||
| − | Want to grow the articles here? Improve the ease of submitting a new article. First, what the hell is this about having to log in to create an article? How anarchic is that? Second, typing an entry in to the search box should bring up a | + | Want to grow the articles here? Improve the ease of submitting a new article. First, what the hell is this about having to log in to create an article? How anarchic is that? Second, typing an entry in to the search box should bring up a "create new article" dialog if the database query finds nothing, not the apocryphal MySQL space language it does now. [[User:Denni|Denni]] 01:38, 14 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
: We have a very small community here so far, and i think this ([[Special:Userlogin|logging]] in first) was done to prevent bots from editing and creating crap articles... personally seeing how there was an influx of regestering bots around, i say this rule has to be deprecated, since it doesn't help anyhow. {{User:beta_m/sig}} | : We have a very small community here so far, and i think this ([[Special:Userlogin|logging]] in first) was done to prevent bots from editing and creating crap articles... personally seeing how there was an influx of regestering bots around, i say this rule has to be deprecated, since it doesn't help anyhow. {{User:beta_m/sig}} | ||
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Revision as of 04:36, 19 December 2005
GFDL is not appropriate to a wiki. Should be replaced by GNU GPL or a Creative Common Licence (discussion on meta community portal)
- I think we should make this a lot more organised. Wikipedia's articles are duplicatable; I believe we should copy those articles first, then modify them to our own standards. As of now, this looks like a sub-standard wiki; just a mess. We can add the anarchist perspective and rearrange the (already well-organised) articles as we wish. lockeownzj00 20:46, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
You are right. Anarchopedia in English doesn't have a lot of contributors and my English is not so well. Some time ago, I started to copy Wikipedia's articles about anarchism, and I'll join you :) next week. --millosh 21:13, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
What's the point of this? If you do a search on Google of a passage from a Wikipedia article for Louis XIV - "bankruptcy when Louis XIV assumed", you get 109 hits, with Wikipedia being #1. Why be hit #110? What's the point of just cloning Wikipedia?
I have copied articles from Wikipedia, usually original articles by a good author. I think copying wholesale Wikipedia articles is pointless. If you want to copy and modify articles from Wikipedia, then copy them to your hard drive, modify it and then upload it. What's the point of being just another Wikipedia clone? Lance Murdoch 01:32, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
- I'm going to add articles from Wikipedia I created or contributed toward, largely articles on U.S. leftist groups. DJ Silverfish 18:56, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
- Why is copying all of Wikipedia pointless? No, that's a bad question... let me try again:
- What is the purpose of this site other than to be "not Wikipedia"? If the purpose is to be an encyclopedia, doesn't it make sense to start with an encyclopedia that you think needs work and then do that work? Any other position would seem to be based merely on territorialism. -Harmil 21:26, 30 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Sorry to sound negative, but was this site started by non-anarchists to make anarchists look hopelessly disorganised? I thought that Wikipedia was a mess, but this... 81.202.195.21 14:40, 8 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- Hehehe... I started it and I am an anarchist. People from German and French Anarchopedia are better organized because they were working on site organization. So, if you want to make some better organization here, you are welcome. The point is self-organization, not leadership. And we have a lot of time to try to do that. To say again here (and this is the answer to Harmil's question, too): Anarchopedia should be "an anarchist encyclopedia" and "an encyclopedia for anarchists", but also the virtual place where we can try to build anarchy. May we organize us without leaders and power; at least in the virtual world? ... as well as with people who are not explicit anarchists? Even Infoshop OpenWiki doesn't intend to be "an encyclopedia for anarchists" (just "an anarchist encyclopedia") Anarchopedia would not have a lot of sense without the goal to build a virtual anarchy. --millosh 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- So, this is the main reason why I am writing here only at the talk pages. People who want to write here should write here without the idea that Anarchopedia is "project which belongs to someone" and without the idea that one person can make decisions about relations between contributors or about the site content. --millosh 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
- It is not easy to make even virtual society without hierarchy and we want to do that in reality. The good thing is that we have a lot of time to try to do that here (or anywhere else). --millosh 00:09, 11 Jul 2005 (UTC)
Restored data
I restored eng: from database dump from September 8th. Between 5 ti 10 changes (from 8, 9, and 10 September) are lost. --millosh 17:49, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
- No big deal, it should take just a few minutes to resubmit the changes (and apparently i was the only person active during the period :). e★f 20:26, 11 Sep 2005 (UTC)
Eng is on new server
millosh 14:50, 13 Sep 2005 (UTC)
User unfriendly
Want to grow the articles here? Improve the ease of submitting a new article. First, what the hell is this about having to log in to create an article? How anarchic is that? Second, typing an entry in to the search box should bring up a "create new article" dialog if the database query finds nothing, not the apocryphal MySQL space language it does now. Denni 01:38, 14 Dec 2005 (UTC)
- We have a very small community here so far, and i think this (logging in first) was done to prevent bots from editing and creating crap articles... personally seeing how there was an influx of regestering bots around, i say this rule has to be deprecated, since it doesn't help anyhow. User:Beta m/sig
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