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:::As You like it... ;-) But I think Your Statement Pro-euthanasia is a fascistic ideology and what You called Marxism, I call it Bolshevism. Marxism is the criticism of capitalism based on Karl Marx and not the government of Lenin, Stalin and Mao. --[[User:Eamr|Eamr]] 13:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | :::As You like it... ;-) But I think Your Statement Pro-euthanasia is a fascistic ideology and what You called Marxism, I call it Bolshevism. Marxism is the criticism of capitalism based on Karl Marx and not the government of Lenin, Stalin and Mao. --[[User:Eamr|Eamr]] 13:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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::::I disagree "Pro-euthanasia is a fascistic ideology". Pro-euthanasia fascistic? You probably get mislead by the fact that fascist regimes and Nazi regime killed people with the excuse of "euthanasia", they abused the concept of euthanasia, you can say it was "forced euthanasia". But this has nothing to do with the original concept of euthanasia. Hitler supported animal rights, by that definition will animal liberation movement be fascistic? No. Animal rights activists, euthanasia activists are sometimes tied with the Nazis. This is called '''''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum Reductio ad Hitlerum]'''''. And regarding the issue with Marxism, I am agree with you. But the remedy i.e. "dictatorship of the proletariat" was given by Marx which led to the establishment of the new bureaucracies replacing the old like the USSR, Cuba, PRC etc. I believe the concept "dictatorship of the proletariat" is the only flaw in Marxism. However I think it will be good to say anti-Marxist-Leninist, rather than anti-Marxist. --[[User:Cercopithecus|Cercopithecus]] 15:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::I disagree "Pro-euthanasia is a fascistic ideology". Pro-euthanasia fascistic? You probably get mislead by the fact that fascist regimes and Nazi regime killed people with the excuse of "euthanasia", they abused the concept of euthanasia, you can say it was "forced euthanasia". But this has nothing to do with the original concept of euthanasia. Hitler supported animal rights, by that definition will animal liberation movement be fascistic? No. Animal rights activists, euthanasia activists are sometimes tied with the Nazis. This is called '''''[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum Reductio ad Hitlerum]'''''. And regarding the issue with Marxism, I am agree with you. But the remedy i.e. "dictatorship of the proletariat" was given by Marx which led to the establishment of the new bureaucracies replacing the old like the USSR, Cuba, PRC etc. I believe the concept "dictatorship of the proletariat" is the only flaw in Marxism. However I think it will be good to say anti-Marxist-Leninist, rather than anti-Marxist. --[[User:Cercopithecus|Cercopithecus]] 15:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :::::I think if You use the same logics like Nazis You have a mistake in Your requirements. And yes, parts of animal rights activists are also fascist. In my opinion fascist included also "democratic" civils who used a base where fascists can build their houses (like P. Singer in example). --[[User:Eamr|Eamr]] 17:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | :::::Ok I see a translation-problem in English only exists one word for two things. In German we have "Sterbehilfe" (death-helping, my own wish) und "Euthansie" (foreign decision). The different is important because euthanasia is a tool/part of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics eugenics] ... --[[User:Eamr|Eamr]] 17:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::::::I do not know if Euthanasia is part of Eugenics or not, what I know is that a person has his/her right to die in special circumstances. Especially in cases of serious painful illness, if a person want to end his suffering through death, which is inevitable but it will result in more and more suffering if he lives, then he has the right to end his life to prevent more pain. And thanks for bringing the translation issue, this is the problem we faced and I mean "Sterbehilfe", not any kind of foreign decision. I will change the language from pro-euthanasia to pro-Sterbehilfe to avoid misunderstanding. --[[User:Cercopithecus|Cercopithecus]] 18:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
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As you changed your status alone? Sir Lestaty de Lioncourt 13:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
I don't say it. Come to chat... ;-)
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Do you have any idea how to create at least some citation templates, especially cite book template? Without it we cannot write a single article. --Cercopithecus 00:34, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, I believe you mean "cheaply copy an article from wikipedia". One can easily write an article here.[1]Elassint
- ↑ and the ref tag works here to
- True I imported the initial draft of some articles from wikipedia. It is good to start the initial stage in this way in articles which are complex in nature like State terrorism by US. I will write articles, give me some time, I will try to help my best. --Cercopithecus 10:03, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
- As You like it... ;-) But I think Your Statement Pro-euthanasia is a fascistic ideology and what You called Marxism, I call it Bolshevism. Marxism is the criticism of capitalism based on Karl Marx and not the government of Lenin, Stalin and Mao. --Eamr 13:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- I disagree "Pro-euthanasia is a fascistic ideology". Pro-euthanasia fascistic? You probably get mislead by the fact that fascist regimes and Nazi regime killed people with the excuse of "euthanasia", they abused the concept of euthanasia, you can say it was "forced euthanasia". But this has nothing to do with the original concept of euthanasia. Hitler supported animal rights, by that definition will animal liberation movement be fascistic? No. Animal rights activists, euthanasia activists are sometimes tied with the Nazis. This is called Reductio ad Hitlerum. And regarding the issue with Marxism, I am agree with you. But the remedy i.e. "dictatorship of the proletariat" was given by Marx which led to the establishment of the new bureaucracies replacing the old like the USSR, Cuba, PRC etc. I believe the concept "dictatorship of the proletariat" is the only flaw in Marxism. However I think it will be good to say anti-Marxist-Leninist, rather than anti-Marxist. --Cercopithecus 15:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think if You use the same logics like Nazis You have a mistake in Your requirements. And yes, parts of animal rights activists are also fascist. In my opinion fascist included also "democratic" civils who used a base where fascists can build their houses (like P. Singer in example). --Eamr 17:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok I see a translation-problem in English only exists one word for two things. In German we have "Sterbehilfe" (death-helping, my own wish) und "Euthansie" (foreign decision). The different is important because euthanasia is a tool/part of eugenics ... --Eamr 17:40, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- I do not know if Euthanasia is part of Eugenics or not, what I know is that a person has his/her right to die in special circumstances. Especially in cases of serious painful illness, if a person want to end his suffering through death, which is inevitable but it will result in more and more suffering if he lives, then he has the right to end his life to prevent more pain. And thanks for bringing the translation issue, this is the problem we faced and I mean "Sterbehilfe", not any kind of foreign decision. I will change the language from pro-euthanasia to pro-Sterbehilfe to avoid misunderstanding. --Cercopithecus 18:51, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
