Talk:black bloc

Forked from Wikipedia, like apparantly so many other articles here.
(From an earlier version from the Wikipedia talk page just a while ago today--and was censored by them.)

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Anarchist Group

I am removing the sentence "The Black Bloc" is sometimes incorrectly reported as being the name of a specific anarchist group. It is, rather, a tactic that may be adopted by groups of various motivations and methods." because it is incorrect. World leaders condem the group and say they are anarchists. Also, the picture has the symbol to back me up. --Striker1057 (talk) 13:30, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Please don't remove cited material. --FOo (talk) 20:48, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Government or Marketing Company Origin

I was wondering about the origin of this Black Bloc. I've never heard of it before, and the media seem to know all about it. It is suddenly mentioned around the g20, and the suspiciously agent provocateur looking tactics. So, I looked up the origins of this article, and it was started by an author at IP address 142.177.114.85, belonging to Stentor National Integrated Communications Network, 110 O'Connor St., Floor 3, Ottawa. 4 blocks from Parliament Buildings, and in the middle of a lot of Canadian Government offices. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.25.120 (talk) 08:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

I did a quick Google search on the company, and it appears that despite what it looks like, it's apparently innocuous: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/419909.html

So no worries there. SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the link you provide says: "The IP address further resolves to military-family-resource-center.ns.vibe.net" I find that suspicious rather than innocuous... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.6.25.120 (talk) 04:22, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Read further. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Police vehicles attacked

Also, youi may add, at least one police vehicle was damaged in the Toronto G20 Riots —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjohnson1234 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

• More like 5 or more Police cars burned and Zanzibar, Toronto's famous strip club was attacked. 99.229.19.99 (talk) 17:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

These were police officers staging this event for an excuse to arrest protesters. If police false flags deserve mention in this article is debatable. Perhaps a section on police provocateurs is warranted in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.202.96.47 (talk) 19:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

• Only if reliable sources are offered. Drmies (talk) 19:54, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

There's now a new article: 2010 G-20 Toronto summit protests, and the above is mentioned in its discussion page.205.189.194.208 (talk) 21:11, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

"creating a clear revolutionary presence."

BARF! NPOV NPOV NPOV NPOV citation needed. Who (outside "the movement") even knows what this means? This article is total crap and an egomaniacal abuse of Wikipedia. I've run the streets masked/'blocked' up before, but I don't agree with publishing your zine on Wikipedia, as has been done here. --98.118.86.16 (talk) 03:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Changed it to say they create the illusion of a larger group (of anarchists). Most edits to this page took place before the summit, and it was placed into lockdown to prevent ranting and raving. - Ê„É­oʏɗiaɲ ^Ï„ _¢ 16:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Until the block on this article is lifted, might I suggest some other sites, so us Torontonians and others comment more on these so-called "anarchist" douchbags?

• Wikinfo. You can fork and have POV's and OR.
• Conservapedia. Conservapedia.
• aSK
• Anarchopedia seems to allow anonymous editting.
• Libertarian Wiki
• WikiIndex for other wikis.

Here's the Anarchopedia article. black bloc. Unlike Wikipedia, this article is not protected.205.189.194.208 22:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Black Bloc and Stephen Harper as Toronto hating pals

Here's a letter to the editor in today's NOW. Harper, meet the Black Bloc

For a fleeting moment this week I entertained the notion that the G20 summit might in some way be a deliberate thumbing of the nose at Toronto by Harper (NOW, June 24-30).

It now seems to me that the choice of venue may very well have been informed by Harper’s attitude toward this stronghold of pluralistic, left-wing debauchery.

At a federal level, Toronto is a strategic write-off for Harper. And herein lies the connection between Harper and the Black Bloc. Neither party calls Toronto home, either politically or physically, and so neither has anything to lose by inviting as charged an event as the G20 or by carrying out the knee-jerk vandalism of our streets.

I submit that Stephen Harper and the Black Bloc equally share the blame for this weekend’s street violence.

Also Anarchism And Other Impediments To Anarchy by Bob Black

If there were no anarchists, the state would have had to invent them. We know that on several occasions it has done just that. We need anarchists unencumbered by anarchism. Then, and only then, we can begin to get serious about fomenting anarchy.

205.189.194.208 22:32, 30 June 2010 (UTC)