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| − | '''Apache''' was reputed to be a female [[Viet Cong]] sniper and platoon commander.<ref>{{cite book|title=Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills|last=Henderson|first = Charles|authorlink= Charles Henderson |page =94|publisher=Penguin|year=2001|isbn=9780425181652}}</ref> and interrogator<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1411077/A-snipers-life.html|title=A sniper's life| publisher= Telegraph|accessdate= 17 August 2011|date=24 October 2002|first=Toby |last=Harnden}}</ref> Historians interpret reports of Apache as wartime legend. Apache ironically received her name as an reference to another wartime legend of Apache Indians' torture, itself most likely a conflation of Apaches with other Indian tribes.<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=1hsYu9DUXWgC&pg=256#v=onepage&q&f=false Cochise: Chiricahua Apache Chief] by Edwin R. Sweeney</ref> She was reputed to torture US Marines and [[ARVN]] troops and let them bleed to death, close enough to US positions for the soldiers to hear.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-02-02/news/1992033013_1_sniper-hathcock-vietnam/2|title=Disease finds sniper Viet Cong didn't A soldier's story|year=1992|first=Joe |last=Nawrozki |publisher= Baltimore Sun|quote=On Hill 55 near Duc Pho, Marines had been dying at the hands of a female Viet Cong sniper and interrogator nicknamed Apache. One day she had captured a young Marine during an ambush. Within hearing range of the hilltop camp defenders, she tortured him through the night.}}</ref> The high probability of there being wounded US soldiers similarly near US positions, crying out in pain, makes it probable that such tales would spread more quickly. | + | '''Apache''' was reputed to be a female [[Wikipedia:Viet Cong]] sniper and platoon commander.<ref>{{cite book|title=Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills|last=Henderson|first = Charles|authorlink= Charles Henderson |page =94|publisher=Penguin|year=2001|isbn=9780425181652}}</ref> and interrogator<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1411077/A-snipers-life.html|title=A sniper's life| publisher= Telegraph|accessdate= 17 August 2011|date=24 October 2002|first=Toby |last=Harnden}}</ref> Historians interpret reports of Apache as wartime legend. Apache ironically received her name as an reference to another wartime legend of Apache Indians' torture, itself most likely a conflation of Apaches with other Indian tribes.<ref>[http://books.google.com/books?id=1hsYu9DUXWgC&pg=256#v=onepage&q&f=false Cochise: Chiricahua Apache Chief] by Edwin R. Sweeney</ref> She was reputed to torture US Marines and [[Wikipedia:ARVN]] troops and let them bleed to death, close enough to US positions for the soldiers to hear.<ref>{{cite news|url=http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-02-02/news/1992033013_1_sniper-hathcock-vietnam/2|title=Disease finds sniper Viet Cong didn't A soldier's story|year=1992|first=Joe |last=Nawrozki |publisher= Baltimore Sun|quote=On Hill 55 near Duc Pho, Marines had been dying at the hands of a female Viet Cong sniper and interrogator nicknamed Apache. One day she had captured a young Marine during an ambush. Within hearing range of the hilltop camp defenders, she tortured him through the night.}}</ref> The high probability of there being wounded US soldiers similarly near US positions, crying out in pain, makes it probable that such tales would spread more quickly. |
| − | Most likely to put a stop to the rumours, she was reported to have been killed in 1966 by [[Carlos Hathcock]] — part of a [[sniper team]] of the [[United States Marine Corps]].<ref name=sasserroberts>{{cite book|title=Crosshairs on the Kill Zone: American Combat Snipers, Vietnam Through Operation Iraqi Freedom|first= Craig |last=Roberts|coauthors= Charles W. Sasser |page=75|publisher =Simon and Schuster|year= 2004 |ISBN =9781416503620 }}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode| title = STALKING THE APACHE| series = Sniper: Deadliest Missions| credits = Emre Sahin, Kelly McPherson, Leon Farmer, Scott Levy and Chad Mathews | network= The History Channel| airdate = 3/6/2011 }}</ref><ref>{{Cite book |ref=harv|last=Sasser|first=Charles |last2=Roberts|first2=Craig | title = One Shot, One Kill|edition=1990|year=1990| publisher = [[Pocket Books]]|page=202| isbn= 9780671682194}}</ref> His partner, Captain [[Edward James Land]], manned the [[spotting scope]], while Hathcock hit her with both of the rounds that he fired.<ref name =hend131>{{cite book|title=Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills|last=Henderson|first = Charles|authorlink= Charles Henderson |pages =131–132|publisher=Penguin|year=2001|isbn=9780425181652}}</ref> | + | Most likely to put a stop to the rumours, she was reported to have been killed in 1966 by [[Wikipedia:Carlos Hathcock]] — part of a [[Wikipedia:sniper team]] of the [[Wikipedia:United States Marine Corps]].<ref name=sasserroberts>{{cite book|title=Crosshairs on the Kill Zone: American Combat Snipers, Vietnam Through Operation Iraqi Freedom|first= Craig |last=Roberts|coauthors= Charles W. Sasser |page=75|publisher =Simon and Schuster|year= 2004 |ISBN =9781416503620 }}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode| title = STALKING THE APACHE| series = Sniper: Deadliest Missions| credits = Emre Sahin, Kelly McPherson, Leon Farmer, Scott Levy and Chad Mathews | network= The History Channel| airdate = 3/6/2011 }}</ref><ref>{{Cite book |ref=harv|last=Sasser|first=Charles |last2=Roberts|first2=Craig | title = One Shot, One Kill|edition=1990|year=1990| publisher = [[Wikipedia:Pocket Books]]|page=202| isbn= 9780671682194}}</ref> His partner, Captain [[Wikipedia:Edward James Land]], manned the [[Wikipedia:spotting scope]], while Hathcock hit her with both of the rounds that he fired.<ref name =hend131>{{cite book|title=Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills|last=Henderson|first = Charles|authorlink= Charles Henderson |pages =131–132|publisher=Penguin|year=2001|isbn=9780425181652}}</ref> |
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==First-hand account about Apache== | ==First-hand account about Apache== | ||
| − | In a filmed first hand account, Hathcock said he â€saw the group coming, about 5 of them and saw her squat down to “[[Urination|tinkle]]â€, and ascertained it was herâ€. Hathcock “stopped her. And put one more in for good measure†after artillery ordnance had exploded.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiReoU_Edo4&feature=player_embedded#at=244 Excerpt from] ''[[The Ultimate Sniper]]'' video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (5:54 minutes into)</ref> (The interview was part of a series that was recorded in 1984 and 1985.) | + | In a filmed first hand account, Hathcock said he â€saw the group coming, about 5 of them and saw her squat down to “[[Wikipedia:Urination|tinkle]]â€, and ascertained it was herâ€. Hathcock “stopped her. And put one more in for good measure†after artillery ordnance had exploded.<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiReoU_Edo4&feature=player_embedded#at=244 Excerpt from] ''[[Wikipedia:The Ultimate Sniper]]'' video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (5:54 minutes into)</ref> (The interview was part of a series that was recorded in 1984 and 1985.) |
==Other accounts relating to Apache == | ==Other accounts relating to Apache == | ||
| − | On film (interviewed by [[John Plaster]] in 1984 and 1985) Hathcock stated that "She" ... "had her own sniper platoon down there, and I think they were out to get all my snipers — everybody. And she had been there, 'cause we took over from third division, and she had been there when the [[1st Marine Division (United States)|first division]] took over, and she just continued to march — | + | On film (interviewed by [[Wikipedia:John Plaster]] in 1984 and 1985) Hathcock stated that "She" ... "had her own sniper platoon down there, and I think they were out to get all my snipers — everybody. And she had been there, 'cause we took over from third division, and she had been there when the [[Wikipedia:1st Marine Division (United States)|first division]] took over, and she just continued to march — |
| − | she had been torturing a lot of people prior to us getting [[Hill 55|there]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiReoU_Edo4&feature=player_embedded#at=244 Excerpt from] ''[[The Ultimate Sniper]]'' video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (3:26 minutes into)</ref> | + | she had been torturing a lot of people prior to us getting [[Wikipedia:Hill 55|there]].<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiReoU_Edo4&feature=player_embedded#at=244 Excerpt from] ''[[Wikipedia:The Ultimate Sniper]]'' video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (3:26 minutes into)</ref> |
| − | In the same series of interviews, Hathcock stated that "Everytime you say something about her, I see that kid coming to the [[barbed wire|wire]]. Skinned" ... "She skinned that one kid she captured. All night and half the next day. And he come running to the wire. I happened to be on the [[bunker]] and observing and listening and [inaudible] oh Jesus | + | In the same series of interviews, Hathcock stated that "Everytime you say something about her, I see that kid coming to the [[Wikipedia:barbed wire|wire]]. Skinned" ... "She skinned that one kid she captured. All night and half the next day. And he come running to the wire. I happened to be on the [[Wikipedia:bunker]] and observing and listening and [inaudible] oh Jesus |
| − | and that morning she turned him loose. He come to the wire and died right in the wire."<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiReoU_Edo4&feature=player_embedded#at=244 Excerpt from] ''[[The Ultimate Sniper]]'' video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (3:10 minutes into)</ref> | + | and that morning she turned him loose. He come to the wire and died right in the wire."<ref>[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiReoU_Edo4&feature=player_embedded#at=244 Excerpt from] ''[[Wikipedia:The Ultimate Sniper]]'' video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (3:10 minutes into)</ref> |
| − | Apache was known for "torturing prisoners within earshot of U.S. bases", according to [[Charles Henderson|C.W.Henderson]].<ref name =hend131/> | + | Apache was known for "torturing prisoners within earshot of U.S. bases", according to [[Wikipedia:Charles Henderson|C.W.Henderson]].<ref name =hend131/> |
| − | The founder of [[SEAL Team Six]], [[Richard Marcinko]], said (in 1995) that Hathcock told him one of Apache's "trademarks" was to cut off her victim's eyelids and keep them as souvenirs.<ref>{{cite book|title=Rogue warrior:Green Team|last=Marcinko|first=Richard|authorlink= Richard Marcinko |coauthors = [[John Weisman]] |year=1995 |page=280|publisher=Pocket Books|ISBN = 9780671896713 |quote=Cutting off her victim's eyelids was her trademark.}}</ref> | + | The founder of [[Wikipedia:SEAL Team Six]], [[Wikipedia:Richard Marcinko]], said (in 1995) that Hathcock told him one of Apache's "trademarks" was to cut off her victim's eyelids and keep them as souvenirs.<ref>{{cite book|title=Rogue warrior:Green Team|last=Marcinko|first=Richard|authorlink= Richard Marcinko |coauthors = [[Wikipedia:John Weisman]] |year=1995 |page=280|publisher=Pocket Books|ISBN = 9780671896713 |quote=Cutting off her victim's eyelids was her trademark.}}</ref> |
| − | Another of Apache's methods of torture (reported in 2003) involved placing "a half-dozen big rats in a basket and sewing the lid shut" around the victim's head. The rats would gradually eat the skin and flesh down to the bone.<ref>{{Cite book |last=Henderson|first=Charles W.| title = Silent Warrior|edition=2003|year=2003| publisher = [[Berkley Books]]| isbn= 9780425188644|page=67 }}</ref> Apache often castrated her captives according to Hathcock.<ref name=sasserroberts/> | + | Another of Apache's methods of torture (reported in 2003) involved placing "a half-dozen big rats in a basket and sewing the lid shut" around the victim's head. The rats would gradually eat the skin and flesh down to the bone.<ref>{{Cite book |last=Henderson|first=Charles W.| title = Silent Warrior|edition=2003|year=2003| publisher = [[Wikipedia:Berkley Books]]| isbn= 9780425188644|page=67 }}</ref> Apache often castrated her captives according to Hathcock.<ref name=sasserroberts/> |
==Interpretations in 2010== | ==Interpretations in 2010== | ||
| − | Sociologist Jerry Lembcke dismisses the accounts of Apache stating, "Apache was more likely a product of comic books" and the story is a "work of fiction created by [[Vietnam veterans]]" and attributes the legend's growth to films relating to Vietnam, such as ''[[Full Metal Jacket]]'' and books such as Henderson's biographies of Hathcock.<ref>{{cite book|title=Hanoi Jane: War, Sex & Fantasies of Betrayal,Culture, Politics, and the Cold War |last=Lembcke|first=Jerry|authorlink= Jerry Lembcke |pages=103–107|publisher =University of Massachusetts Press|year= 2010 |ISBN =781558498150 }}</ref> | + | Sociologist Jerry Lembcke dismisses the accounts of Apache stating, "Apache was more likely a product of comic books" and the story is a "work of fiction created by [[Wikipedia:Vietnam veterans]]" and attributes the legend's growth to films relating to Vietnam, such as ''[[Wikipedia:Full Metal Jacket]]'' and books such as Henderson's biographies of Hathcock.<ref>{{cite book|title=Hanoi Jane: War, Sex & Fantasies of Betrayal,Culture, Politics, and the Cold War |last=Lembcke|first=Jerry|authorlink= Jerry Lembcke |pages=103–107|publisher =University of Massachusetts Press|year= 2010 |ISBN =781558498150 }}</ref> |
Apache was the basis for the villain of the same name in H.E. Jasper's detective novel ''Days in Bien-hoa''.<ref>{{cite book|title=Days in Bien-hoa|first= H.E.|last= Jasper |publisher =PublishAmerica |year=2010|isbn = 9781456059705 }}</ref> | Apache was the basis for the villain of the same name in H.E. Jasper's detective novel ''Days in Bien-hoa''.<ref>{{cite book|title=Days in Bien-hoa|first= H.E.|last= Jasper |publisher =PublishAmerica |year=2010|isbn = 9781456059705 }}</ref> | ||
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Apache was reputed to be a female Wikipedia:Viet Cong sniper and platoon commander.[1] and interrogator[2] Historians interpret reports of Apache as wartime legend. Apache ironically received her name as an reference to another wartime legend of Apache Indians' torture, itself most likely a conflation of Apaches with other Indian tribes.[3] She was reputed to torture US Marines and Wikipedia:ARVN troops and let them bleed to death, close enough to US positions for the soldiers to hear.[4] The high probability of there being wounded US soldiers similarly near US positions, crying out in pain, makes it probable that such tales would spread more quickly.
Most likely to put a stop to the rumours, she was reported to have been killed in 1966 by Wikipedia:Carlos Hathcock — part of a Wikipedia:sniper team of the Wikipedia:United States Marine Corps.[5][6][7] His partner, Captain Wikipedia:Edward James Land, manned the Wikipedia:spotting scope, while Hathcock hit her with both of the rounds that he fired.[8]
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First-hand account about Apache[edit]
In a filmed first hand account, Hathcock said he â€saw the group coming, about 5 of them and saw her squat down to “tinkleâ€, and ascertained it was herâ€. Hathcock “stopped her. And put one more in for good measure†after artillery ordnance had exploded.[9] (The interview was part of a series that was recorded in 1984 and 1985.)
Other accounts relating to Apache[edit]
On film (interviewed by Wikipedia:John Plaster in 1984 and 1985) Hathcock stated that "She" ... "had her own sniper platoon down there, and I think they were out to get all my snipers — everybody. And she had been there, 'cause we took over from third division, and she had been there when the first division took over, and she just continued to march — she had been torturing a lot of people prior to us getting there.[10]
In the same series of interviews, Hathcock stated that "Everytime you say something about her, I see that kid coming to the wire. Skinned" ... "She skinned that one kid she captured. All night and half the next day. And he come running to the wire. I happened to be on the Wikipedia:bunker and observing and listening and [inaudible] oh Jesus and that morning she turned him loose. He come to the wire and died right in the wire."[11]
Apache was known for "torturing prisoners within earshot of U.S. bases", according to C.W.Henderson.[8]
The founder of Wikipedia:SEAL Team Six, Wikipedia:Richard Marcinko, said (in 1995) that Hathcock told him one of Apache's "trademarks" was to cut off her victim's eyelids and keep them as souvenirs.[12]
Another of Apache's methods of torture (reported in 2003) involved placing "a half-dozen big rats in a basket and sewing the lid shut" around the victim's head. The rats would gradually eat the skin and flesh down to the bone.[13] Apache often castrated her captives according to Hathcock.[5]
Interpretations in 2010[edit]
Sociologist Jerry Lembcke dismisses the accounts of Apache stating, "Apache was more likely a product of comic books" and the story is a "work of fiction created by Wikipedia:Vietnam veterans" and attributes the legend's growth to films relating to Vietnam, such as Wikipedia:Full Metal Jacket and books such as Henderson's biographies of Hathcock.[14]
Apache was the basis for the villain of the same name in H.E. Jasper's detective novel Days in Bien-hoa.[15]
References[edit]
- ↑ Henderson, Charles (2001). Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills, Penguin.
- ↑ Harnden, Toby (24 October 2002). "A sniper's life". Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1411077/A-snipers-life.html. Retrieved 17 August 2011.
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- ↑ Cochise: Chiricahua Apache Chief by Edwin R. Sweeney
- ↑ Nawrozki, Joe (1992). "Disease finds sniper Viet Cong didn't A soldier's story". Baltimore Sun. http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1992-02-02/news/1992033013_1_sniper-hathcock-vietnam/2. "On Hill 55 near Duc Pho, Marines had been dying at the hands of a female Viet Cong sniper and interrogator nicknamed Apache. One day she had captured a young Marine during an ambush. Within hearing range of the hilltop camp defenders, she tortured him through the night." </li>
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Roberts, Craig; Charles W. Sasser (2004). Crosshairs on the Kill Zone: American Combat Snipers, Vietnam Through Operation Iraqi Freedom, Simon and Schuster.
- ↑ Template:Cite episode
- ↑ Sasser, Charles (1990). One Shot, One Kill, 1990, Wikipedia:Pocket Books.
- ↑ 8.0 8.1 Henderson, Charles (2001). Marine Sniper: 93 Confirmed Kills, p. 131–132, Penguin.
- ↑ Excerpt from Wikipedia:The Ultimate Sniper video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (5:54 minutes into)
- ↑ Excerpt from Wikipedia:The Ultimate Sniper video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (3:26 minutes into)
- ↑ Excerpt from Wikipedia:The Ultimate Sniper video by Major John Plaster; Interview with Hathcock regarding "Apache" (3:10 minutes into)
- ↑ Marcinko, Richard; Wikipedia:John Weisman (1995). Rogue warrior:Green Team, Pocket Books. "Cutting off her victim's eyelids was her trademark."
- ↑ Henderson, Charles W. (2003). Silent Warrior, 2003, Wikipedia:Berkley Books.
- ↑ Lembcke, Jerry (2010). Hanoi Jane: War, Sex & Fantasies of Betrayal,Culture, Politics, and the Cold War, p. 103–107, University of Massachusetts Press.
- ↑ Jasper, H.E. (2010). Days in Bien-hoa, PublishAmerica.
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